Since the pandemic hit our shores, more Americans than ever are experiencing mental health issues, including depression and anxiety. Dr. Stuart Eisendrath joins us to share insights on mindfulness based cognitive therapy (MBCT) and how it can help stabilize our emotions without — or in addition to — meds.

We also discuss why depression and anxiety often go together. And how MBCT can help us become more aware of triggers and potential relapses.

Dr. Eisendrath is the senior clinician and research psychiatrist at the University of California in San Francisco, and founding director of the UCSF Depression Center. His new book is When Antidepressants Aren’t Enough: Harnessing the Power of Mindfulness to Alleviate Depression.